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	<title>Comments on: Nominal vs Real 3-Month Interest Rate: 1934-2008</title>
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		<title>By: Contulmmiv</title>
		<link>http://visualizingeconomics.com/2008/09/28/nominal-vs-real-3-month-interest-rate-1934-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>Contulmmiv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Catherine - thank you for your reply. Of course, silly me. 
However, I wonder if this is the most meaningful procedure to follow. Assuming that I am the not-so-proud, ahem, owner of a 3-month bill, what would concern me is how much the payed interest is reduced by inflation for the respective duration, not the entire year. Wouldn&#039;t this be my real interest? Thus I would subtract from the TB3MS either 3 times the _monthly_ CPIAUCNS, or a _quarterly_ average, without a multiplication factor  (and herein lies my x3 factor, only that I forgot to set the frequency to &quot;monthly&quot;).
Just wondering... Otherwise, now the chart replicates perfectly. I noticed your update on the blog, well done. Congratulations on your work.

Sincerely, M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Catherine &#8211; thank you for your reply. Of course, silly me.<br />
However, I wonder if this is the most meaningful procedure to follow. Assuming that I am the not-so-proud, ahem, owner of a 3-month bill, what would concern me is how much the payed interest is reduced by inflation for the respective duration, not the entire year. Wouldn&#8217;t this be my real interest? Thus I would subtract from the TB3MS either 3 times the _monthly_ CPIAUCNS, or a _quarterly_ average, without a multiplication factor  (and herein lies my x3 factor, only that I forgot to set the frequency to &#8220;monthly&#8221;).<br />
Just wondering&#8230; Otherwise, now the chart replicates perfectly. I noticed your update on the blog, well done. Congratulations on your work.</p>
<p>Sincerely, M.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy New Year to you too, I had to go back and find the original files but it looks like my formula is different from the one you linked to. I took the monthly CPI-U (CPIAUCNS) and calculated the rolling 3 month % change. Then multiplied each by 4. I subtracted this value from the monthly 3-Month Treasury Bill: Secondary Market Rate (TB3MS) to get my &quot;real&quot; 3-month interest rate on a monthly basis. I think the main difference is that I am multiplying my 3-month CPI % change by 4 (as in 4 qtrs in a year) instead of 3. Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year to you too, I had to go back and find the original files but it looks like my formula is different from the one you linked to. I took the monthly CPI-U (CPIAUCNS) and calculated the rolling 3 month % change. Then multiplied each by 4. I subtracted this value from the monthly 3-Month Treasury Bill: Secondary Market Rate (TB3MS) to get my &#8220;real&#8221; 3-month interest rate on a monthly basis. I think the main difference is that I am multiplying my 3-month CPI % change by 4 (as in 4 qtrs in a year) instead of 3. Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: contulmmiv</title>
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		<dc:creator>contulmmiv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello and a happy 2011. Also, congratulations on a very interesting blog.
I am trying to replicate your nominal vs. real 3-month interest rate, bringing it up to date.
For the most of it, I think I succeeded. However, there are some discrepancies between my result and your original. For example, during WWII, your real interest rate dips to nearly -40, while on my chart, it dips to only -30. 
Therefore, I deduce that I am doing something wrong.
I would appreciate if you could confirm the data series you used. In my case, I used the following:
* a). CPI-U: CPIAUCNS, frequency &#039;quarterly&#039;, aggregation method &#039;average&#039;, units &#039;percent change&#039;
* b). 3-month treasury secondary market: TB3MS
* transformation: b-a*3
If you care to look at the work, it is here: 
http://tinyurl.com/29d3kbl [TinyURL link to the St. Louis Fed page]
I would appreciate your take on it.
I used the same colors, for ease of comparison. The only difference is that I also drew in a light pink the CPI line.
One last thing: how did you obtain the &quot;area&quot; style chart for the real rate (orange)? :) 

Sincerely, M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello and a happy 2011. Also, congratulations on a very interesting blog.<br />
I am trying to replicate your nominal vs. real 3-month interest rate, bringing it up to date.<br />
For the most of it, I think I succeeded. However, there are some discrepancies between my result and your original. For example, during WWII, your real interest rate dips to nearly -40, while on my chart, it dips to only -30.<br />
Therefore, I deduce that I am doing something wrong.<br />
I would appreciate if you could confirm the data series you used. In my case, I used the following:<br />
* a). CPI-U: CPIAUCNS, frequency &#8216;quarterly&#8217;, aggregation method &#8216;average&#8217;, units &#8216;percent change&#8217;<br />
* b). 3-month treasury secondary market: TB3MS<br />
* transformation: b-a*3<br />
If you care to look at the work, it is here:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/29d3kbl" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/29d3kbl</a> [TinyURL link to the St. Louis Fed page]<br />
I would appreciate your take on it.<br />
I used the same colors, for ease of comparison. The only difference is that I also drew in a light pink the CPI line.<br />
One last thing: how did you obtain the &#8220;area&#8221; style chart for the real rate (orange)? <img src='http://visualecon.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Sincerely, M.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Danny O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s Oblomovka &#187; Blog Archive &#187; better living through probability: nationmaster and fivethirtyeight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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